CHANTAL: I thought the speaker's account of her first job was fascinating.

尚塔尔：我认为演讲者对她第一份工作的描述很吸引人。

HUGO: Yeah – she admitted she was lucky to get work being a personal dresser for a musician.

雨果：是的。她说到她很幸运能找到一份给音乐家做私人梳妆师的工作。

She didn't even apply for the job and there she was getting paid to choose all his clothes.

她甚至没有申请这份工作，她被雇来挑选他所有的服装。

CHANTAL: It must have felt amazing – though she said all she was looking for back then was experience, not financial reward.

尚塔尔：一定感觉很棒，虽然她说她当时想要的只是经验，而不是经济回报。

HUGO: Mmm. And then he was so mean, telling her she was more interested in her own appearance than his!

雨果：嗯。然后他很刻薄，告诉她比起雇主，她对自己外表更感兴趣！

CHANTAL: But – she did realise he was right about that, which really made me think.

尚塔尔：但是，她确实意识到他是对的。这真的引发了我的思考。

I'm always considering my own clothes but now I can see you should be focusing on your client!

我一直在考虑自己的衣服，但现在我明白你应该关注你的客户！

HUGO: She obviously regretted losing the job.

雨果：她显然对失去这份工作感到遗憾。

CHANTAL: Well, as she said, she should have hidden her negative feelings about him, but she didn't.

尚塔尔：嗯，正如她所说，她应该隐藏对他的负面情绪，但她没有。

HUGO: It was really brave the way she picked herself up and took that job in retail.

雨果：她振作起来并接受了零售店的工作，这真的很勇敢。

Fancy working in a shop after that!

在那之后爱上了在商店工作！

CHANTAL: Yeah – well, she recommended we all do it at some point.

尚塔尔：是的。她建议所有人都可以在某个时间点去商店工作。

I guess as a designer you'd get to find out some useful information, like how big or small the average shopper is.

我想作为一名设计师，你会发现一些有用的信息，比如普通购物者的体型身材。

HUGO: I think that's an issue for manufacturers, not designers.

雨果：我认为这是制造者而不是设计师的事。

However, it would be useful to know if there's a gap in the market – you know, an item that no one's stocking but that consumers are looking for.

然而，这对了解市场是否存在缺口将很有用。你知道，有的商品没有人备货但消费者却都想要。

CHANTAL: Yeah, people don't give up searching.

尚塔尔：是的，人们会一直找。

They also take things back to the store if they aren't right.

如果人们没有买对东西也会退货。

HUGO: Yeah. Imagine you worked in an expensive shop and you found out the garments sold there were being returned because they … fell apart in the wash!

雨果：是的。想象一下，你在一家高档商店工作，你发现那里出售的衣服被退回了，因为它们在洗涤时破碎了！

CHANTAL: Yeah, it would be good to know that kind of thing.

尚塔尔：是的，能了解那些事会很好。

HUGO: Yeah.

雨果：是的。