PART 3

HUGO: Hi Chantal. What did you think of the talk, then?

雨果：你好，尚塔尔。你觉得这次讲座怎么样？

CHANTAL: Hi Hugo. I thought it was good once I'd moved seats.

尚塔尔：嗨，雨果。我移动了座位之后，觉得还不错。

HUGO: Oh – were the people beside you chatting or something?

雨果：哦，你旁边的人在聊天或者怎么了吗？

CHANTAL: It wasn't that.

尚塔尔：不是那样的。

I went early so that I'd get a seat and not have to stand, but then this guy sat right in front of me and he was so tall!

我去得早，这样我就可以有座位不用站着。但是有个人就坐在我前面，他太高了！

HUGO: It's hard to see through people's heads, isn't it?

雨果：头挡住什么也看不见，是吗？

CHANTAL: Impossible! Anyway, to answer your question, I thought it was really interesting, especially what the speaker said about the job market.

尚塔尔：绝不可能！无论如何，回答你刚才的问题，我认为这真的很有趣，尤其是演讲者所说的关于就业市场的内容。

HUGO: Me too. I mean we know we're going into a really competitive field so it's obvious that we may struggle to get work.

雨果：我也觉得。我的意思是我们知道我们将进入一个竞争非常激烈的领域，所以很明显我们可能很难找到工作。

CHANTAL: That's right – and we know we can't all have that 'dream job'.

尚塔尔：没错。我们知道我们不可能都拥有那份“梦想的工作”。

HUGO: Yeah, but it looks like there's a whole range of … areas of work that we hadn't even thought of – like fashion journalism, for instance.

雨果：是的，但看起来有很多工作领域我们甚至没有考虑过，比如时尚新闻。

CHANTAL: Yeah – I wasn't expecting so many career options.

尚塔尔：就是说。我没想到会有这么多职业选择。

HUGO: Mmm. Overall, she had quite a strong message, didn't she?

雨果：嗯。总的来说，她传达了一个非常强烈的信息，不是吗？

CHANTAL: She did. She kept saying things like 'I know you all think this, but …' and then she'd tell us how it really is.

尚塔尔：的确。她一直在说“我知道你们都这么想，但是……”。然后她会告诉我们真实情况是什么。

HUGO: Perhaps she thinks students are a bit narrow-minded about the industry.

雨果：也许她认为学生们对这个行业的看法有点狭隘。

CHANTAL: It was a bit harsh, though!

尚塔尔：但还是有点残酷！

We know it's a tough industry.

我们知道这是一个要求严格的行业。

HUGO: Yeah – and we're only first years, after all. We've got a lot to learn.

雨果：是的。毕竟我们才刚上一年级。我们有很多东西要学。

CHANTAL: Exactly. Do you think our secondary-school education should have been more career-focused?

尚塔尔：没错。你认为我们的中学教育应该更注重职业吗？

HUGO: Well, we had numerous talks on careers, which was good, but none of them were very inspiring.

雨果：这个嘛，我们有很多关于职业的讲座，这很好，但没有一个是非常鼓舞人心的。

They could have asked more people like today's speaker to talk to us.

他们本可以请更多像今天的演讲者这样的人给我们演讲。

CHANTAL: I agree. We were told about lots of different careers – just when we needed to be, but not by the experts who really know stuff.

尚塔尔：我同意。他们只是在我们需要的时候告诉我们关于许多不同职业的事情，但那些人不是真正了解职场的专家。

HUGO: So did today's talk influence your thoughts on what career you'd like to take up in the future?

雨果：那么今天的谈话是否影响了你对未来想从事什么职业的想法？

CHANTAL: Well, I promised myself that I'd go through this course and keep an open mind till the end.

尚塔尔：好吧，我答应过我自己会完成这门课程并保持开放的心态直到最后。

HUGO: But I think it's better to pick an area of the industry now and then aim to get better and better at it.

雨果：但我认为现在最好选择一个行业领域，然后致力于在这个领域做得越来越好。

CHANTAL: Well, I think we'll just have to differ on that issue!

尚塔尔：嗯，我想我们只能在这个问题上保持不同意见！

HUGO: One thing's for certain, though.

雨果：不过有一件事是肯定的。

From what she said, we'll be unpaid assistants in the industry for quite a long time.

按照她的说法，我们会作为助手在这个行业工作很长一段时间，但是没有薪水。

CHANTAL: Mmm.

尚塔尔：这个嘛。

HUGO: I'm prepared for that, aren't you?

雨果：我已经做好准备了，你呢？

CHANTAL: Actually, I'm not going to accept that view.

尚塔尔：实际上，我不打算接受这种说法。

HUGO: Really? But she knows it's the case – and everyone else says the same.

雨果：真的吗？但她知道情况确实如此，其他人也这么说。

CHANTAL: That doesn't mean it has to be true for me.

尚塔尔：这并不意味着对我也一定是这样的。

HUGO: OK. Well – I hope you're right!

雨果：好吧，我希望你是对的！

CHANTAL: I thought the speaker's account of her first job was fascinating.

尚塔尔：我认为演讲者对她第一份工作的描述很吸引人。

HUGO: Yeah – she admitted she was lucky to get work being a personal dresser for a musician.

雨果：是的。她说到她很幸运能找到一份给音乐家做私人梳妆师的工作。

She didn't even apply for the job and there she was getting paid to choose all his clothes.

她甚至没有申请这份工作，她被雇来挑选他所有的服装。

CHANTAL: It must have felt amazing – though she said all she was looking for back then was experience, not financial reward.

尚塔尔：一定感觉很棒，虽然她说她当时想要的只是经验，而不是经济回报。

HUGO: Mmm. And then he was so mean, telling her she was more interested in her own appearance than his!

雨果：嗯。然后他很刻薄，告诉她比起雇主，她对自己外表更感兴趣！

CHANTAL: But – she did realise he was right about that, which really made me think.

尚塔尔：但是，她确实意识到他是对的。这真的引发了我的思考。

I'm always considering my own clothes but now I can see you should be focusing on your client!

我一直在考虑自己的衣服，但现在我明白你应该关注你的客户！

HUGO: She obviously regretted losing the job.

雨果：她显然对失去这份工作感到遗憾。

CHANTAL: Well, as she said, she should have hidden her negative feelings about him, but she didn't.

尚塔尔：嗯，正如她所说，她应该隐藏对他的负面情绪，但她没有。

HUGO: It was really brave the way she picked herself up and took that job in retail.

雨果：她振作起来并接受了零售店的工作，这真的很勇敢。

Fancy working in a shop after that!

在那之后爱上了在商店工作！

CHANTAL: Yeah – well, she recommended we all do it at some point.

尚塔尔：是的。她建议所有人都可以在某个时间点去商店工作。

I guess as a designer you'd get to find out some useful information, like how big or small the average shopper is.

我想作为一名设计师，你会发现一些有用的信息，比如普通购物者的体型身材。

HUGO: I think that's an issue for manufacturers, not designers.

雨果：我认为这是制造者而不是设计师的事。

However, it would be useful to know if there's a gap in the market – you know, an item that no one's stocking but that consumers are looking for.

然而，这对了解市场是否存在缺口将很有用。你知道，有的商品没有人备货但消费者却都想要。

CHANTAL: Yeah, people don't give up searching.

尚塔尔：是的，人们会一直找。

They also take things back to the store if they aren't right.

如果人们没有买对东西也会退货。

HUGO: Yeah. Imagine you worked in an expensive shop and you found out the garments sold there were being returned because they … fell apart in the wash!

雨果：是的。想象一下，你在一家高档商店工作，你发现那里出售的衣服被退回了，因为它们在洗涤时破碎了！

CHANTAL: Yeah, it would be good to know that kind of thing.

尚塔尔：是的，能了解那些事会很好。

HUGO: Yeah.

雨果：是的。